[JN] Tiny Torrid Whindage!

Christian Rintelen christian at rintelen.ch
Thu Feb 4 16:58:01 CST 2021

hey, that is a very nice explanation for the etymology of «the whole nine yards».

and you’re not the only one who thinks so, as this nice discussion <https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,,-16675,00.html> in the guardian proves. 

however, according to wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_whole_nine_yards>,  the earliest published non-idiomatic use of the phrase dates back to a 1855 indiana newspaper article. the earliest idiomatic use is documented in a 1907, again in indiana. these indiana instances are the ugly flies in the ointment as there were no fighters or bombers equipped with 50 caliber machine guns neither in 1907 nor in 1855…

to quote wikipedia again:  Yale University librarian Fred R. Shapiro calls the whole nine yards "the most prominent etymological riddle of our time". at least that!

sorry to rain on your parade  🤓

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> Am 04.02.2021 um 23:24 schrieb Philip Yates via Sound <sound at soundlist.org>:
> 1/2" = 12.7 mm, you know, the calibre of the Browning machine guns used in so many of the WWII fighters and bombers? :-)  The ammo boxes held 9 yards of ammunition, hence, giving someone or something "the whole nine yards."
> Phil
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 3:52 PM bear via Sound <sound at soundlist.org> wrote:
> Yeah they make 'em so they can wind down to SMT size!!
> I've got one that will do down to ~1/2" , which is some large fraction of what
> you call a Centimeter?
>                      _-_-bear
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